Over at Democracy Docket the resistance movement is necessary and important The protests play a huge roll in the resistance movement But some of us become desensitized and don’t say anything They came for people in LA but I don’t live in LA They came for people in Portland but I don’t live in Portland Then they came for people in Chicago but I don’t live in Chicago Then they came for me and I was in the only city left Outrage is necessary and there is NO GOOD REPUBLICAN at this point in time They are traitors to the country like Cheeto
But building a new opposition(https://bit.ly/3IrVBFy) in parallel is essential as we evolve the resistance movement An opposition movement is based on morality and truth and needs to be seen as being in for the long run, measured in terms of years not months And we should be resilient in our approach to this long term project, the opposition movement
The protests are important, but not all protests are the same. 10 million people yelling into the ether that they don't want a king is going to do nothing...
10 thousand people protesting outside of the state power levers like governors' and AGs' offices on the other hand are far more likely to bring about actual meaningful change than the 10 million yelling into the ether...
That's all I'm saying when I point to the ineffectiveness of our protests. Cheeto is probably having a blast and loving all our protesters hanging out at ICE detention facilities giving his gICEtapo plenty of target practice, morale and justification for his narrative (even if they're all non-violent, given that they can twist the narrative).
1. I replied to your original comment, you never answered there. I'm still waiting.
2. Look around all the comments, plenty of people call them protests. You may think you have monopoly on language, but you don't.
3. I'm not dissing them; I'm pointing out facts. You're still welcome to provide evidence that the "rallies" have in any way shape or form meaningfully improved the chances for democracy to defeat fascism so far in the way they have been conducted. I see precisely none whatsoever. In fact, they are now becoming highly counterproductive as they have been feeding the fascists' narrative—even if false—and improving their morale, by offering bodies to serve as target practice and photo Ops.
I'll be waiting for you to rebut anything that I have said, as I have been since the last time when you never answered.
My objective is clear, to defeat fascism.
If your objective is only to hold street parties for fun while the country is collapsing, then you're right, we have very different objectives, and I wish you would advertise along with your rallies that they serve NO PURPOSE for anyone actually trying to defeat the fascists.
Having participated in many protests now, 10m people have an effect on all the people who drive by in their cars honking in approval That shows up at ballot box Elections are won on emotions and this ramping up of emotions has value In the end all types of protests for me are valuable wherever they occur
I suppose we'll have to wait and see... The last No Kings set the record for all of US History, and yet, the fascist regime has only further consolidated power since. I find it highly unlikely that the next elections will mean much by the time they come around given the direction we're going. I understand that all protests can do something, but I think we need them to do more than inspire honking and some potential future electoral support. I could be wrong, but I think that history (including every other country that has experienced a consolidation of power via democratic means) seems to suggest otherwise.
Superb strategery, my friend!
Our officials here in Maine are standing firm. :)
What Happens After Cheeto??
Over at Democracy Docket the resistance movement is necessary and important The protests play a huge roll in the resistance movement But some of us become desensitized and don’t say anything They came for people in LA but I don’t live in LA They came for people in Portland but I don’t live in Portland Then they came for people in Chicago but I don’t live in Chicago Then they came for me and I was in the only city left Outrage is necessary and there is NO GOOD REPUBLICAN at this point in time They are traitors to the country like Cheeto
But building a new opposition(https://bit.ly/3IrVBFy) in parallel is essential as we evolve the resistance movement An opposition movement is based on morality and truth and needs to be seen as being in for the long run, measured in terms of years not months And we should be resilient in our approach to this long term project, the opposition movement
So who are our heroes in this movement?
The protests are important, but not all protests are the same. 10 million people yelling into the ether that they don't want a king is going to do nothing...
10 thousand people protesting outside of the state power levers like governors' and AGs' offices on the other hand are far more likely to bring about actual meaningful change than the 10 million yelling into the ether...
That's all I'm saying when I point to the ineffectiveness of our protests. Cheeto is probably having a blast and loving all our protesters hanging out at ICE detention facilities giving his gICEtapo plenty of target practice, morale and justification for his narrative (even if they're all non-violent, given that they can twist the narrative).
“ineffectiveness of our protests.”
I wrote to you and explained what the RALLIES are for.
That you continue to diss them reveals your objective.
1. I replied to your original comment, you never answered there. I'm still waiting.
2. Look around all the comments, plenty of people call them protests. You may think you have monopoly on language, but you don't.
3. I'm not dissing them; I'm pointing out facts. You're still welcome to provide evidence that the "rallies" have in any way shape or form meaningfully improved the chances for democracy to defeat fascism so far in the way they have been conducted. I see precisely none whatsoever. In fact, they are now becoming highly counterproductive as they have been feeding the fascists' narrative—even if false—and improving their morale, by offering bodies to serve as target practice and photo Ops.
I'll be waiting for you to rebut anything that I have said, as I have been since the last time when you never answered.
My objective is clear, to defeat fascism.
If your objective is only to hold street parties for fun while the country is collapsing, then you're right, we have very different objectives, and I wish you would advertise along with your rallies that they serve NO PURPOSE for anyone actually trying to defeat the fascists.
Having participated in many protests now, 10m people have an effect on all the people who drive by in their cars honking in approval That shows up at ballot box Elections are won on emotions and this ramping up of emotions has value In the end all types of protests for me are valuable wherever they occur
I suppose we'll have to wait and see... The last No Kings set the record for all of US History, and yet, the fascist regime has only further consolidated power since. I find it highly unlikely that the next elections will mean much by the time they come around given the direction we're going. I understand that all protests can do something, but I think we need them to do more than inspire honking and some potential future electoral support. I could be wrong, but I think that history (including every other country that has experienced a consolidation of power via democratic means) seems to suggest otherwise.