Reposted from another Substack because I think it's important to spread:
I would like to remind them that El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz (aka Malcolm X) was taken out by one of his own people. The same can be said for the Romanov family. Even Nazis turned on Hitler, so speculation on the motive here is useless. But some think it's fine to make political points on the backs of the dead. What would Charlie say?
Yeah, I haven't been wanting to say much past my frustration with how people legitimized Kirk's mission, but to your point, the greatest benefactors of this assassination are the the Steven Miller types who would used this moment as their own Reichstag Fire. Add to it the level of skill in the shot, the convinient flop of chasing after the completely wrong individuals that gave the shooter additional time to disappear, and the whole thing starts to feel a hell of a lot like something from a spy book.
I 💯% hope so. The worst thing that can happen is for this to become another JFK conspiracy without a good, concrete answer, that fuels every dumb idea for the next 50 years.
Kirk was more than a victim of his own rhetoric. He built his empire on the bones—often children—of those lost to violence, cemented by the bigotry of his theocratic depravity, and spread it through the minds of impressionable young adults—lacking the inoculation of knowledge and life experience—like a cancer at the very core of the human soul.
As said in my piece, I could not be more against vigilantism or political violence. But I struggle to see how someone with a shred of decency can have any sympathy for such a vile human being.
One must be able to hold two complementary thoughts in their skull. It is the 21st century after all.
I have another thought about those poor people in that boat:what if they weren't even from Venezuela?Several countries converge in that area,Venezuela,Peru, Colombia,Chile,Panama,and if they came out of the Amazon River,they could have been all the way from Brazil.So how the hell did they know where these people were from,did someone board that boat and ask them?How did they even know what they were carrying?
What was done to those people,IS ILLEGAL,those people were innocent victims,no matter what they were(or weren't!!)doing,and to just take pop shots at a random boat in open water should be considered an act of piracy,even if from a Naval vessel,who apparently did not identify themselves to these people.Besides that,what the hell was the US Navy doing in that part of the world?Did they get lost?There aren't any US Naval bases in that part of South or Central America,are there?And for damned sure not in Venezuela!
Please correct me if I'm wrong,if nothing else,it may help everyone fill in some of the too many obvious blanks in this picture.
This world just get more and more crazy.Stop the world and let me off...
First, to answer your question, the US has deployed Naval forces to the area in a show of force against Venezuela, and who knows, a potential invasion.
And yes, it is absolutely wild that we just killed 11 people because we felt like it, and that a large number of people on the right, Kirk included, were happily cheering it on.
It is messed up all this crazy stuff is happening.Isn’t there even one sane place left on this Earth anymore?It seems like everywhere is insane,just some a little more or less than others.
As for Charlie Kirk,”He who lives by the sword dies by the sword.”Oh well.What can ya do.
“I think it is worth it. I think it is worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the 2nd Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational”
— Charlie Kirk - April 5, 20231
Kirk was a White Nationalist, period. The outpouring of sympathy for his family is misplaced. I do not have to include his family in my feelings for Kirk or what he did. He was an operative of trump’s maga, including supporting insurrection. His family may or may not have been trump supporters, we do not know. It makes no difference to me. He was a bigot, a national embarrassment and an insurrectionist. Do I feel bad he was killed, not for a second. I do like the very Christian idea of empathy for most everyone, but I also believe that people act as they will and deserve what they get. As ye sow, so shall ye reap. This idea that we should have some feelings for someone who acted as he and his hero did, and do, are not in my lexicon. Kirk should have known his family would pay a price for his actions and words, he did it anyway. I hear calls to have some empathy for his family. Kirk did not care about the families of those he castigated. RFK’s family has spoken out against him, loudly and often. Kirk’s family has been silent as far as I know. Why don’t people who go down this path to fascism think their family will be included in the reaction to their transgressions? Sins of the father and all.
BTW - whomever took the shot was an expert, probable a professional, which raises the question of who paid him. The video shows a man running with something which looks very much like a long gun with a tripod attached to the barrel. This rises almost to the level of the fake blood streaming along trump’s cheek or the fact the he still has a right ear at all.
All of the above comments are unbelievably based on some random irrational person taking a shot at Kirk. The attempt in PA was not believable, trump faked that one and people died, included the shooter, but not trump. There’s enough online analysis to support such a conclusion and that this one was an inside hit as well. As I have said before, trump was the only beneficiary of this tragic public event.
Reposted from another Substack because I think it's important to spread:
I would like to remind them that El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz (aka Malcolm X) was taken out by one of his own people. The same can be said for the Romanov family. Even Nazis turned on Hitler, so speculation on the motive here is useless. But some think it's fine to make political points on the backs of the dead. What would Charlie say?
Yeah, I haven't been wanting to say much past my frustration with how people legitimized Kirk's mission, but to your point, the greatest benefactors of this assassination are the the Steven Miller types who would used this moment as their own Reichstag Fire. Add to it the level of skill in the shot, the convinient flop of chasing after the completely wrong individuals that gave the shooter additional time to disappear, and the whole thing starts to feel a hell of a lot like something from a spy book.
Time will tell...maybe. And we know who started the Reichstag fire. It was easy to tell by the phoniness of the story they made up about it.
I 💯% hope so. The worst thing that can happen is for this to become another JFK conspiracy without a good, concrete answer, that fuels every dumb idea for the next 50 years.
LOL! You think it won't be? On both sides!
Really nice essay. I'll be sharing it evrywhere. Democracy Now did a wonderful segment on it with Jeff Sharlet!
Kirk should be vilified, not celebrated. He was a victim of his own rhetoric. No sympathy here.
Kirk was more than a victim of his own rhetoric. He built his empire on the bones—often children—of those lost to violence, cemented by the bigotry of his theocratic depravity, and spread it through the minds of impressionable young adults—lacking the inoculation of knowledge and life experience—like a cancer at the very core of the human soul.
As said in my piece, I could not be more against vigilantism or political violence. But I struggle to see how someone with a shred of decency can have any sympathy for such a vile human being.
One must be able to hold two complementary thoughts in their skull. It is the 21st century after all.
Yes, agreed.
I have another thought about those poor people in that boat:what if they weren't even from Venezuela?Several countries converge in that area,Venezuela,Peru, Colombia,Chile,Panama,and if they came out of the Amazon River,they could have been all the way from Brazil.So how the hell did they know where these people were from,did someone board that boat and ask them?How did they even know what they were carrying?
What was done to those people,IS ILLEGAL,those people were innocent victims,no matter what they were(or weren't!!)doing,and to just take pop shots at a random boat in open water should be considered an act of piracy,even if from a Naval vessel,who apparently did not identify themselves to these people.Besides that,what the hell was the US Navy doing in that part of the world?Did they get lost?There aren't any US Naval bases in that part of South or Central America,are there?And for damned sure not in Venezuela!
Please correct me if I'm wrong,if nothing else,it may help everyone fill in some of the too many obvious blanks in this picture.
This world just get more and more crazy.Stop the world and let me off...
First, to answer your question, the US has deployed Naval forces to the area in a show of force against Venezuela, and who knows, a potential invasion.
And yes, it is absolutely wild that we just killed 11 people because we felt like it, and that a large number of people on the right, Kirk included, were happily cheering it on.
It is messed up all this crazy stuff is happening.Isn’t there even one sane place left on this Earth anymore?It seems like everywhere is insane,just some a little more or less than others.
As for Charlie Kirk,”He who lives by the sword dies by the sword.”Oh well.What can ya do.
Thank you.
Your style of writing has a way of speaking the raw truth that displays understanding not judgement.
No easy feat.
Thank you, that means a lot.
I saw irony - death does have a scense of humor no matter how twisted
“I think it is worth it. I think it is worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the 2nd Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational”
— Charlie Kirk - April 5, 20231
Kirk was a White Nationalist, period. The outpouring of sympathy for his family is misplaced. I do not have to include his family in my feelings for Kirk or what he did. He was an operative of trump’s maga, including supporting insurrection. His family may or may not have been trump supporters, we do not know. It makes no difference to me. He was a bigot, a national embarrassment and an insurrectionist. Do I feel bad he was killed, not for a second. I do like the very Christian idea of empathy for most everyone, but I also believe that people act as they will and deserve what they get. As ye sow, so shall ye reap. This idea that we should have some feelings for someone who acted as he and his hero did, and do, are not in my lexicon. Kirk should have known his family would pay a price for his actions and words, he did it anyway. I hear calls to have some empathy for his family. Kirk did not care about the families of those he castigated. RFK’s family has spoken out against him, loudly and often. Kirk’s family has been silent as far as I know. Why don’t people who go down this path to fascism think their family will be included in the reaction to their transgressions? Sins of the father and all.
BTW - whomever took the shot was an expert, probable a professional, which raises the question of who paid him. The video shows a man running with something which looks very much like a long gun with a tripod attached to the barrel. This rises almost to the level of the fake blood streaming along trump’s cheek or the fact the he still has a right ear at all.
All of the above comments are unbelievably based on some random irrational person taking a shot at Kirk. The attempt in PA was not believable, trump faked that one and people died, included the shooter, but not trump. There’s enough online analysis to support such a conclusion and that this one was an inside hit as well. As I have said before, trump was the only beneficiary of this tragic public event.